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I understand that in a double negative the second negative word goes after the verb. But what happens when there are two verbs, or three? Does it go after the first verb or the second verb? For example, would it be:
No quiero hablar contigo mas.
No quiero mas hablar contigo.
Or another example:
No necesito darte nada
No necesito nada darte
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kuriouskat21 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:34 amI understand that in a double negative the second negative word goes after the verb. But what happens when there are two verbs, or three? Does it go after the first verb or the second verb? For example, would it be:
No quiero hablar contigo mas.
No quiero mas hablar contigo.Or another example:
No necesito darte nada
No necesito nada darte
Good question. It would go after the last verb:
No quiero hablar más contigo
No necesito darle nada a mi vecino
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Regarding the word order, Spanish is a fairly flexible language.
They are all correct.
In this case the first one sounds more natural. I think it's a bit unusual to put the second verb at the end of the sentence.
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May this be because of the strong association of the object to dar?
In the examples with hablar, it seems more flexible to me.
Do you have a favourite way to say it [mention]Explorer[/mention]? I'd guess your examples differ in emphasis, yet I may be wrong.
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ExplorerI think it's because those sentences have different types of complements. Más is an adverbial complement, whereas -te and nada are indirect and direct objects respectively. Adverbs generally can appear almost anywhere in the sentence.
You may be right. But honestly, I don't see much difference. Prosody, that is the intensity with which you pronounce every word, can be much more important than the word order itself. I would like to know [mention]gmads[/mention]' opinon on this regard.
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My bad, I didn't even realise that nada is an adverb. I took it for a replacement of the direct object in that sentence.
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ExplorerNada can actually act both as a noun or an adverb. In the example given by [mention]kuriouskat21[/mention] it's indeed a noun and it functions as a direct object. Doesn't it? The point is that, if there's an indirect object pronoun attached to an infinitive (dar-te), then the direct object usually goes after.
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Más, meaning anymore, is an adverb that can be placed in different positions of the sentence. Adverb position is very flexible in Spanish. That's why the examples above are all correct, at least to the ears of a speaker from Spain.
Here is an example with the adverb "ya" that illustrates very well this flexibility I am talking about:
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@explorer @cifi Nada is an indefite pronoun and as such is used like a noun. It can be the subject or the object of a sentence. With regard to the sentence in the example: In German, there is a double meaning of no querer más una cosa. It can be that you don't want it any longer or that you want it more than ever before. There is a poem by Ulla Hahn that plays with ambiguity: "Nie mehr": "Das hab' ich nie mehr gewollt", no he querido eso más. If you turn it around, the sentence loses this ambiguity: "Mehr hab' ich das nie gewollt".
