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Corinnebelle

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

Post by Corinnebelle »

[mention]LICA98[/mention] I think this would be a gradual trend like how Welsh and Gaelic are endangered languages because of English. It doesn't happen overnight and it wouldn't happen everywhere. Where there are strong cultural ties and education in those language, I think those languages would continue to exist, but I think overall there would be less people that spoke them.

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LICA98
Finland

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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Corinnebelle wrote: Thu Jun 30, 2022 7:10 am

@LICA98 I think this would be a gradual trend like how Welsh and Gaelic are endangered languages because of English. It doesn't happen overnight and it wouldn't happen everywhere. Where there are strong cultural ties and education in those language, I think those languages would continue to exist, but I think overall there would be less people that spoke them.

Welsh and Gaelic are minority languages in an English speaking country whereas Finnish or Swedish aren't

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Corinnebelle

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

Post by Corinnebelle »

[mention]LICA98[/mention] I see your point, that more people know English than any other language, but I think that most people don't know a second languages as well as a first language and something from your language to another language would have more appeal than using an intermediary language. It would feel like it was just for you versus something that has a broader scope.

It would be interesting to do a poll. Would you be interested in that? Not that we have that many people here, and not that anything we do will change Duolingo.

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panyamnyenyekevu
Ukraine

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

Post by panyamnyenyekevu »

Well 6.30.22 has come and gone with no Cantonese. But you know, Hatiain Creole was in the incubator for several years with changing arrival dates. I think we can probably expect most of these languages will come sooner or later.

If it were me (as CEO of Duolingo), I would add hundreds of new courses a year and focus on that rather than primarily focusing on improving the super-colonizing languages and making it more attractive to kids.

There would be as much cross-pollination as possible (e.g., Indonesian for Polish speakers, Welsh for Turkish speakers).

There would be lots more conlangs and indigenous or endangered languages.

Lingots and gems would be turned into a cryptocurrency and / or a part of a stock option.

I think I will apply for one of those duolingo jobs!

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MatOzone
Catalonia

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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I think next releases will be (not counting tree updates like 'English from Chinese'):

1) English from Bengali (july 20th 2022?)

2) Cantonese from Chinese (july 25th 2022?)

3) Zulu from English (september 1th 2022?)

4) Xhosa from English (september 15th 2022?)

5) Maori from English (...2023?)

So, better to have the flags and the golden owls prepared, hehehe!
Does the maori one be "inverted"? (red at left?) Something's wrong, but I don't guess what is it...

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DeborahLDrucker
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Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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LICA98 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:24 pm

also many courses like Yiddish or Haitian Creole make no sense for business

They belong in the same category as Navajo: languages on the verge of extinction, and one of DL's missions is to teach them.
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Yiddish is NOT "on the verge of extinction." A language becomes extinct when it has no speakers. At least 500,000 Hasidic/Haredi persons speak Yiddish (some estimate as high as 1 million.)

b05aplmun.ca
United States of America

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

Post by b05aplmun.ca »

But I guess, all this business talk is not very important. As I understand, courses in Duolingo were created from people who want to create one. That was not a top-down strategy. Maybe now their resources of english speaking people to create other courses for English speakers are limited. Therefore they offer new courses of language combinations where they have the needed human ressources available.
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Er, volunteers may have created the courses, but Duolingo picked the courses it would incubate and the specific volunteers heading up the crew creating the course. Volunteers could not randomly end the system and start creating courses.

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fremanolas

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

Post by fremanolas »

Today I noticed I can't access the incubator anymore, I get redirected to all courses, which lists ten languages as "hatching".
As far as I remember there have been 14 or 15 language courses hatching in the incubator. Anyone with additional information about the incubator and what happened to the missing language courses?

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MatOzone
Catalonia

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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The incubator was killed by Duolingo this tuesday :/

Now there's nothing similar, and the only reference to future courses is the duome's profile for alpha and beta-testers.

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LICA98
Finland

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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MatOzone wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:08 am

The incubator was killed by Duolingo this tuesday :/

wtf 😱

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MatOzone
Catalonia

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

Post by MatOzone »

I discovered a trick to access the "old incubator"... Well, not exactly, but it helps to guess when a language will be available. Some times it's necessary to open in a "private session" and NOT logged in.

https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/xh/en
https://www.duolingo.com/course/xh/en (xhosa) 2036

https://www.duolingo.com/course/zu/en ㅤzulu, 2022/Aug/25
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/zu/en

https://www.duolingo.com/course/de/zh ㅤgerman from chinese, 2022/Jul/31
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/de/zh

https://www.duolingo.com/course/es/ar ㅤspanish from arabic, 2023/Dec/07
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/es/ar

https://www.duolingo.com/course/sv/ru ㅤswedish from russian, 2026/Jun/16
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/sv/ru

https://www.duolingo.com/course/uk/ru ㅤukranian from russian, 2022/Dec/31
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/uk/ru

https://www.duolingo.com/course/fr/tr ㅤfrench from turkish, 1999/Dec/31
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/fr/tr

https://www.duolingo.com/course/zh/ko ㅤchinese from korean, 2023/Mar/31
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/zh/ko

https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/pa ㅤenglish from punjabi, 2020/Dec/31
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/en/pa

https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/ta ㅤenglish from tamil, 2021/May/01
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/en/ta

https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/te ㅤenglish from tegulu, 2021/06/01
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/en/te

disappaired (blank page / nothing):
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/mi/en
https://www.duolingo.com/course/mi/en (maori)

https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/ta/en
https://www.duolingo.com/course/ta/en (tamil)

https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/qc/es
https://www.duolingo.com/course/qc/es (kiche from spanish)

https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/yu/es
https://www.duolingo.com/course/yu/es (yucateco from spanish)

https://www.duolingo.com/course/eo/zh-CN ㅤesperanto from chinese, 2022/07/05
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/eo/zh-CN ㅤupdate: removed release date

EDIT: Maybe some Duolingo employees read this forum, because the links just stopped working :) Let's see if we can find other sources, hehehe!
EDIT 2: Changed! :D
EDIT 3: More links to test! :D

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Corinnebelle

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

Post by Corinnebelle »

RIP incubator. How will we guess when to try a new code? Maybe when Duocon says they're making something?

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01tmJ8kb

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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Has the Te Reo Māori course been dropped? Development was well underway, and it was one of the courses which Luis von Ahn mentioned at last year's Duocon as being available "pretty soon".

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MatOzone
Catalonia

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

Post by MatOzone »

I forgot to mention another NEW language:

MATHS!

1) Zulu from English (september 1th 2022?)

2) Xhosa from English (september 15th 2022?)

3) Maths from English (december 15th 2022?)

4) Maori from English (...2023?)

... so better to have prepared the "flag" for that "language", hihihi

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...and let's see how to enter the "alfa/beta" tests: [mention]panyamnyenyekevu[/mention]

https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/math
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/math/en
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/en/math

https://www.duolingo.com/course/math
https://www.duolingo.com/course/math/en
https://www.duolingo.com/course/en/math

https://www.duolingo.com/math/enroll/
https://www.duolingo.com/math/course/
https://www.duolingo.com/math/beta/
https://www.duolingo.com/beta-join/math/

...etc

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01tmJ8kb

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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Zulu is now showing in Beta!

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IceVajal
Germany

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

Post by IceVajal »

Perhaps this article about Duolingo Math is interesting for some of you...

The Verge: Duolingo has math now (and it's kind of hard).
https://www.theverge.com/2022/8/26/2331 ... uocon-2022

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panyamnyenyekevu
Ukraine

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

Post by panyamnyenyekevu »

Well I can’t hack my way into Duolingo Math. [mention]MatOzone[/mention] But I did sign up for the waiting list here. https://www.duolingo.com/math The Verge article shared by [mention]IceVajal[/mention] strongly implies it will be its own separate app. I think they should just add it to the regular app myself but having it in a separate app will incentivize maintaining a duolingo math app streak. Let’s hope they add partial differential equations and Hamiltonian quaternions soon. The hot buzz is that mastery of duolingo math will enable interstellar communication. (Of course that’s nothing new given our Klingon course.) 😉

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water_color

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

Post by water_color »

:)

LICA98 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:49 am

I wish they would stop focusing on courses with no English involved (like Swedish from Russian wtf) and instead added the missing European national languages (Bulgarian, Slovak, Slovene, Albanian, and the Baltic countries' languages) 🤬

It would only make sense if they had higher demands for the quality of courses than they have now. Because for now, courses for "small" languages are usually small themselves and leave you only with a dissappointment (for example, the Ukrainian course doesn't even cover all of the cases, same for the Latin course which is even smaller).

So, I don't think a lot of small courses for Slavic languages and Albanian would be better than one course "Swedish for Russian speakers" which is probably going to be bigger (though I doubt it will be released at all).

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Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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Xohsa now shows as hatching with 6% done!

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water_color

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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panyamnyenyekevu wrote: Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:23 am

But I did sign up for the waiting list here. https://www.duolingo.com/math The Verge article shared by @IceVajal strongly implies it will be its own separate app. I think they should just add it to the regular app myself but having it in a separate app will incentivize maintaining a duolingo math app streak. Let’s hope they add partial differential equations and Hamiltonian quaternions soon. The hot buzz is that mastery of duolingo math will enable interstellar communication. (Of course that’s nothing new given our Klingon course.) 😉

I would join the waiting list but the phrase "3rd grade math" is kinda dissappointing for me. I mean, I don't want count the sum of 2 and 3 nor do I want to identify the right shape of a rectangle, I would like something more advanced. If I understand it right and "3rd grade math" means math for primary school and not something else.

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LICA98
Finland

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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water_color wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 3:56 pm

:)

LICA98 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 3:49 am

I wish they would stop focusing on courses with no English involved (like Swedish from Russian wtf) and instead added the missing European national languages (Bulgarian, Slovak, Slovene, Albanian, and the Baltic countries' languages) 🤬

It would only make sense if they had higher demands for the quality of courses than they have now. Because for now, courses for "small" languages are usually small themselves and leave you only with a dissappointment (for example, the Ukrainian course doesn't even cover all of the cases, same for the Latin course which is even smaller).

So, I don't think a lot of small courses for Slavic languages and Albanian would be better than one course "Swedish for Russian speakers" which is probably going to be bigger (though I doubt it will be released at all).

well that's still better than no course, and it's not like all of the non-English courses are good (for example French for Russian is very bad)

David680268
Germany

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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Sofia222677 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 8:46 pm

Russian for Turkish speakers is not random at all. Russians make up a sizeable share of the tourists in Turkey, even more so currently given the recent events.

Do they have Russian for Turkish speakers? This sounds like the ultimate opportunity to practice two of my languages at the same time. :geek:

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Danika_Dakika
United States of America

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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David680268 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:51 pm

Do they have Russian for Turkish speakers?

Evet!
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/ru/tr/Rusça-ogren

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David680268
Germany

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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Danika_Dakika wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:23 am

Evet!
https://www.duolingo.com/enroll/ru/tr/Rusça-ogren

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Çok teşekkür ederim! Başladım (başlattım :?: ).

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Danika_Dakika
United States of America

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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David680268 wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:27 pm

Başladım (başlattım :?: ).

[–e başlamak]

Rusça öğrenmeye başladın!
Tebrikler!

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sammoose93
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Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

Post by sammoose93 »

Being part Slovak, I would like to see Duo add Slovak, Slovenian, and Croatian, even Serbian or Bosnian would be great. And expanding on the Greek and Ukrainian trees would be lovely. But they do prioritize the most common languages.

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LICA98
Finland

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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sammoose93 wrote: Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:48 pm

Being part Slovak, I would like to see Duo add Slovak, Slovenian, and Croatian, even Serbian or Bosnian would be great. And expanding on the Greek and Ukrainian trees would be lovely. But they do prioritize the most common languages.

they can't add Croatian or Serbian unfortunately but the first 2 would be nice (even tho there's no chance of that happening either) :?

water_color

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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LICA98 wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:35 am

they can't add Croatian or Serbian unfortunately but the first 2 would be nice (even tho there's no chance of that happening either) :?

Why do you think they can't?

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LICA98
Finland

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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water_color wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:25 pm
LICA98 wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:35 am

they can't add Croatian or Serbian unfortunately but the first 2 would be nice (even tho there's no chance of that happening either) :?

Why do you think they can't?

because of the controversy that Serbian and Croatian (and Bosnian) are actually the same language

also Serbian uses both the Latin and Cyrillic alphabets and they removed the thing where you could switch between alphabets (for Russian and Ukrainian)

water_color

Re: New languages coming to Duolingo

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LICA98 wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:37 am

because of the controversy that Serbian and Croatian (and Bosnian) are actually the same language

also Serbian uses both the Latin and Cyrillic alphabets and they removed the thing where you could switch between alphabets (for Russian and Ukrainian)

I think the alphabet thing is not a problem, because they can just use Latin for the course, doubling it with Cyrillic is not necessary. Both Serbs and Croats can use Latin, and it is not so hard to learn the Serbian Cyrillic somewhere else.

Creating a common Serbo-Croatian course can be a problem for other reasons, such as: Croatian uses Slavic name of the months (siječanj, veljača, etc), Serbian uses Latin names (januar, februar, etc); many words have different spelling or look totally different; there are some differences in grammar. Considering how Duolingo works, it may be hard to teach two ways of doing the same thing.

I think having separate courses for Serbian and Croatian would actually be more reasonable. Or at least one of them. Norwegian and Danish are also very similar, but nobody questions the presence of separate courses for them, not just one Dano-Norwegian course.

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