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octopussoybeansceres
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CEFR Level for the German Tree

Post by octopussoybeansceres »

The Duolingo German Tree has 6 Units. The Duolingo blog mentions [1] that the German content tree is aligned with CEFR.

What is the alignment between the units and the CEFR Levels? Specifically, I want to know how much of the German tree I will have to cover to complete what Duolingo has to offer for A1?

[1] https://blog.duolingo.com/goldilocks-an ... ust-right/

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Re: CEFR Level for the German Tree

Post by Deleted User 1400 »

As far as I know you cannot compare trees or skills with each other, not even crowns. If Duolingo doesn't provide further information, it's only possible to guess it. I use a table to associate my progresses with levels and use the following data:
1 Crown ~ 35 minutes (actually 20-45, shorter in the beginning, longer for higher levels, only valid for courses with similar average length and 6 lessons per crown)

100 hours of learning is the official (upper) requirement for level A1 according to Cambridge Assessment Institute, which, of course, only can be applied on "real" courses. I set the required value twice (=200h) for my results, since duolingo doesn't provide some contents (free writing etc). This makes round about 346 Crowns, but I wouldn't say, you're level is a clear A1 then, only using Duolingo, without substituting some skills otherwise. If you'd substitute a lot (50:50), you could choose something in the middle as well.

octopussoybeansceres
Germany

Re: CEFR Level for the German Tree

Post by octopussoybeansceres »

rtqs-sandra wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 5:13 pm

As far as I know you cannot compare trees or skills with each other, not even crowns. If Duolingo doesn't provide further information, it's only possible to guess it. I use a table to associate my progresses with levels and use the following data:
1 Crown ~ 35 minutes (actually 20-45, shorter in the beginning, longer for higher levels, only valid for courses with similar average length and 6 lessons per crown)

100 hours of learning is the official (upper) requirement for level A1 according to Cambridge Assessment Institute, which, of course, only can be applied on "real" courses. I set the required value twice (=200h) for my results, since duolingo doesn't provide some contents (free writing etc). This makes round about 346 Crowns, but I wouldn't say, you're level is a clear A1 then, only using Duolingo, without substituting some skills otherwise. If you'd substitute a lot (50:50), you could choose something in the middle as well.

Hi, thanks for your response. I am asking specifically which units / skills will be equivalent to A1, A2.. and so on. I think completing the first few units should cover most if not all of the topics in A1, for instance.

Also, I do not think the time we spend learning in duolingo can be used to determine CEFR levels. Since one could level up early skills to legendary and spend a lot of time on basic skills or just do the first levels and reach the end of the tree (in which case we will have covered a lot of skills but spend the same amount of hours / time).

Thanks again, for your response.

Deleted User 1400

Re: CEFR Level for the German Tree

Post by Deleted User 1400 »

As I said, it's just a very rough estimate, but it fits my test results quite good. CEFR is defined much more precise than most other systems.

But 2 more things I should definitely have added 1) that I'm not a waterfall learner and 2) repeat everything once.

eI000yo

Re: CEFR Level for the German Tree

Post by eI000yo »

octopussoybeansceres wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 3:15 pm

The Duolingo German Tree has 6 Units. The Duolingo blog mentions [1] that the German content tree is aligned with CEFR.

What is the alignment between the units and the CEFR Levels? Specifically, I want to know how much of the German tree I will have to cover to complete what Duolingo has to offer for A1?

[1] https://blog.duolingo.com/goldilocks-an ... ust-right/

You can see in How are Duolingo courses evolving? the following table


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and an explanation:

Our new courses now cover all the A1- and A2-level content, with about 800 words introduced at each level; B1-level content is currently under development. Each course is divided into sections so that you can more easily track your progress.

Note: Units=Sections

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