Demoted too many

[CSA_GW]

This week, Duo seems having changed the rules of promotion and demotion of leagues.

Take Obsidian League for example (of total 20), there will be very few promoted (4/20), few capable of staying in the league (6/20), and a great many forced being demoted (10/20).

Why is Duo doing this? This makes most users stressed and in bad mode while being demoted.

[duome]

I think I got very diffrent promotion/demotion numbers in two consequent weeks depending on the device I used when I started my league (mobile vs web version). Current week is ok while last week was pretty much like you described.

[SweNedGuy]

The diamond league also is trimmed to 20 participants. Four will be demoted (4/20 = 20%). There used to be 5 participants demoting from a 30 users league (5/30 = 1/6 or 16.7%)

As I started with DL almost 5 years ago, leagues counted 50 participants. With 10 promoting and 5 demoting there was a constant upward drift towards Diamond. 'Metal leagues' were a mere launching pad with even more promotions. As leagues were trimmed to 30 users, the number of demotions was initally only 3, but it was soon upped to 5 in diamond and to 6 in other leagues.

[John Little]

Do what I do. Get to diamond and go private. That way you'll never be demoted.

[CSA_GW]

Do what I do. Get to diamond and go private. That way you'll never be demoted.

I did not know there were this function. After seeing your message, I found how to set off league teams. Now I do not care how far I am from being demoted! Thank you!

[John Little]

Do what I do. Get to diamond and go private. That way you'll never be demoted.

I did not know there were this function. After seeing your message, I found how to set off league teams. Now I do not care how far I am from being demoted! Thank you!

It is a big weight off your shoulders and, if you miss them, you can always go back. Then, if you don't go mad with triple xp etc for a few weeks, if you do go back, you'll probably be in an easier league

[SweNedGuy]

This week, Duo seems having changed the rules of promotion and demotion of leagues.

Take Obsidian League for example (of total 20), there will be very few promoted (4/20), few capable of staying in the league (6/20), and a great many forced being demoted (10/20).

Why is Duo doing this? This makes most users stressed and in bad mode while being demoted.

This may be a single week measure, meant to 'empty' an overpopulated league. Halving obsidian will also reduce the total number of promotions to Diamond starting from next week onward.

[SweNedGuy]

Do what I do. Get to diamond and go private. That way you'll never be demoted.

Duo has 'invented' friend quests and friend streaks to keep users prefer a public profile and hence hooked to the leagues.
As for 'staying in Diamond' that works well if you go private just after a league has finished.

Do this mid week and you will remain in the league, though you don't notice it. Depending on your result you either stay in diamond or demote to obsidian. While you remain private, that doesn't really matter either. I sometimes notice private profiles in the demotion zone.

[John Little]

As for 'staying in Diamond' that works well if you go private just after a league has finished.

Do this mid week and you will remain in the league, though you don't notice it. Depending on your result you either stay in diamond or demote to obsidian. While you remain private, that doesn't really matter either. I sometimes notice private profiles in the demotion zone.

Ah. Good point.

[SweNedGuy]

Yesterday, the shortened leagues (20 users) ended for the first time. 3/20 or 15% now take the podium places (instead of 3/30 = 10%).
Demotion gets more frequent too. In the diamond leagues that means 4/20 = 20% instead of 5/30 = 16.7%.

The league starting today is a tournament access league. Now the top 8 (=40%) qualify for the Diamond league tournament. That used to be 10 out of 30 or 33%.

This is how it looked yesterday. Note that these are website users totalling on average less XP over a week than app users.

The horizontal XP axis is logarithmic between 250 and 10.000. Users are ranked on the vertical axis 1 to 20. Yours truly ended at N° 11.
The demotion threshold stands at 1412. Nobody really abandoned and only the last made no effort to stay in Diamond.

Website users will have experienced that DL gets quite stingy with XP for standard lessons. In many courses a maximum of only 10 XP is assigned to a lesson. That is split out into 4 XP for completing the lesson and 6 XP bonus if completed without any error. A daily challenge of totalling 15 bonus XP gets easier than the 50 XP daily challenge while you are on such trajectory. Below you get the example for my Portuguese course from Spanish.