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Mia, Miaj, S^ia, S^iaj... Topic is solved

Burl
United States of America

Mia, Miaj, S^ia, S^iaj...

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I don't understand when to use Mi, Mia, Miaj, S^ i, S^ ia, S^ iaj, Li, Lia, Liaj, Vi, Via, Viaj, Ni, Nia, Niaj... this is confusing me.

I should be more specific. I understand Mi = I or me, but when to use Mia or Miaj vs. Mi... etc with the rest. Thank you.

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Julian_L.
Argentina

Re: Mia, Miaj, S^ia, S^iaj...

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WordUsage
mi = IThe same of "I" (subject) or "me" (after a preposition).
mia = my/mineWhen modifying a noun that's singular, just like with any other single adjective (apart from correlatives ending in «-es»):
Mia granda hundo estas bruna. = My big dog is brown.
miaj = my/mineWhen modifying a noun that's plural:
Miaj grandaj hundoj estas brunaj. = My big dogs are brown.

And the same thing goes with any other pronoun:

—i—a—aj
ni = wenia = our(s) [one thing]niaj = our(s) [+1 thing]
vi = youvia = your(s) [one thing]viaj = your(s) [+1 thing]
li = he [subject] / him [preposition]lia = his [one thing]liaj = his [+1 thing]
ŝi = she [subject] / her [preposition]ŝia = her(s) [one thing]ŝiaj = her(s) [+1 thing]
ĝi = itĝia = its [one thing]ĝiaj = its [+1 thing]

Two "exceptions" would be:

  • «si» (used when a sentence has two "he" or "she" or "they", and at the same time, both pronouns are the same person) which can be used as «sin» («li vidas sin» = "he sees himself") and «sia(j)(n)», but not as «si» (as far as I know).

  • «oni» (indefinite third-person pronoun), which is practically always used as «oni», and never as «onin» or «onia(j)(n)».

Last edited by Julian_L. on Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:29 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Burl
United States of America

Re: Mia, Miaj, S^ia, S^iaj...

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Thank you! This clarifies everything for me!

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Burl
United States of America

Re: Mia, Miaj, S^ia, S^iaj...

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Julian_L. wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 11:55 pm
WordUsage
mi = IThe same of "I" (subject) or "me" (after a preposition).
mia = my/mineWhen modifying a noun that's singular, just like with any other single adjective (apart from correlatives ending in «-es»):
Mia granda hundo estas bruna. = My big dog is brown.
miaj = my/mineWhen modifying a noun that's plural:
Miaj grandaj hundoj estas brunaj. = My big dogs are brown.

And the same thing goes with any other pronoun:

—i—a—aj
ni = wenia = our(s) [one thing]niaj = our(s) [+1 thing]
vi = youvia = your(s) [one thing]viaj = your(s) [+1 thing]
li = he [subject] / him [preposition]lia = his [one thing]liaj = his [+1 thing]
ŝi = she [subject] / her [preposition]ŝia = her(s) [one thing]ŝiaj = her(s) [+1 thing]
ĝi = itĝia = its [one thing]ĝiaj = its [+1 thing]

Two "exceptions" would be:

  • «si» (used when a sentence has two "he" or "she" or "they", and at the same time, both pronouns are the same person) which can be used as «sin» («li vidas sin» = "he sees himself") and «sia(j)(n)», but not as «si» (as far as I know).

  • «oni» (indefinite third-person pronoun), which is practically always used as «oni», and never as «onin» or «onia(j)(n)».

one more question tho... how does 'ili' work with all of this? because 'ili' is already plural...

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Julian_L.
Argentina

Re: Mia, Miaj, S^ia, S^iaj...

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Burl wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:19 pm

one more question tho... how does 'ili' work with all of this? because 'ili' is already plural...

«Ilia(j)» means "their(s)":

  • Lia hundo = His dog

  • Ŝia hundo = Her dog

  • Ilia hundo = Their dog

  • Liaj hundoj = His dogs

  • Ŝiaj hundoj = Her dogs

  • Iliaj hundoj = Their dogs

Basically the difference between "my/mine" («mia(j)») and "our(s)" («nia(j)»).

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Burl
United States of America

Re: Mia, Miaj, S^ia, S^iaj...

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Julian_L. wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:43 am
Burl wrote: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:19 pm

one more question tho... how does 'ili' work with all of this? because 'ili' is already plural...

«Ilia(j)» means "their(s)":

  • Lia hundo = His dog

  • Ŝia hundo = Her dog

  • Ilia hundo = Their dog

  • Liaj hundoj = His dogs

  • Ŝiaj hundoj = Her dogs

  • Iliaj hundoj = Their dogs

Basically the difference between "my/mine" («mia(j)») and "our(s)" («nia(j)»).

again, thank you so much!!! :)

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Burl
United States of America

Re: Mia, Miaj, S^ia, S^iaj...

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ok, since you are so good at this I have one last question... how does the -n ending work, like min, lin... I only understand to use it like, mi amas vin, or li amas sin but idk why it works that way. And mian? idk when or where to use mian.

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FurbyZeKat
Switzerland

Re: Mia, Miaj, S^ia, S^iaj...

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Burl wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:17 pm

how does the -n ending work, like min, lin...

This ending is called accusative and you should read the tips, there was a specific lesson on this topic.

https://duome.eu/tips/en/eo#Accusative

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