PtolemysXX wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:32 am
gmads wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:20 am
what people will be missing are not the sentences but the comments,
I will be missing sentences too (including links to audio). Having ways to access sentences in an automated way gives an opportunity to create flash cards for offline use for example. One of the major drawbacks of Duolingo (my personal view) is the necessity of being online to do lessons and the total dependence on Duolingo's whims ("quick maintenance breaks" exactly at the time when I am commuting back home and would love to do a lesson) slow loading or server availability.
How can the sentences be missed if they are already in the lessons? Thus, they can be easily copied, just as some of us did before using the Duome script button. Here one can find many sentences copied by hand. That is something that is being done even now.
The rest, that is, what one does with the sentence, is another issue that is not intrinsically related to the sentence being in a DL forum. From my point of view, it would be infinitely easier to create whatever personal app from a sentence database than doing it from a webpage (DLSD).
In my case, for example, I created an Excel file with each word and then I entered many sentences linked to the word.
I don't know, I just don't see how they could be missed. It takes just a little effort to copy and paste, which in our learning endeavor is the activity that takes the least. If one thinks it even a little more, one could easily integrate a macro to the whole thing!
PtolemysXX wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:32 am
gmads wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:20 am
This begs the question, are all those megas of text really that worthy? From my point of view they are given too much importance.
After a few weeks of porting some sentences to duome and manually editing them by hand to sieve trash away I am inclined to agree with you on that: I have overestimated the percentage of useful information. There is quite a lot of very helpful material in the sentence discussion but it requires a lot of manual labor to get that filtered. I wonder if any AI could do that.
Yes, exactly. And wouldn't you agree that one can find way more useful information at a webpage or a YT channel? Information that will provide us with answers and tips beyond a particular doubt linked to a particular sentence?
PtolemysXX wrote: ↑Fri Sep 22, 2023 9:32 am
On top of that, but that is a little different story, I realized that even though the sentence discussions are frozen for us - end users - on the server side the were being edited. I found it out by accident while trying to retrieve comments of a selected forum moderator whose remarks were always of finest and best quality. About two months ago I made a screenshot of a piece of a sentence discussion with his comments, the day before yesterday I tried to import the sentence discussion to duome - the sentence discussion was there but all posts of that moderator were gone without trace. I went a step further and googled duolingo + the moderator id: google produces many results from the cache I guess: clicking on them opened the right links but all posts from that moderator are plain gone. In my eyes it reduced drastically the ratio of useful comments in the sentence discussions.
Wow! Could it be that the user her/himself deleted her/his comments? I mean, from the point of view of DL, that seems like a very targeted and specific action. And to what purpose?
What I noticed, and I recently commented about it, was that the comments were still there, but they all had been anonymized