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Davey944676
Great Britain

медбра́т

Post by Davey944676 »

Does anybody have any advice on the use in Ukrainian of "медбрат" (male equivalent of "медсестра" (nurse)?

Does the ending declne just like "брат"? I can't find a declension table in my usual English-friendly haunts... :)

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HeyMarlana
Canada

Re: медбра́т

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It's a hard declension.

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Davey944676
Great Britain

Re: медбра́т

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HeyMarlana wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:31 pm

It's a hard declension.

Right, so a stress has to go on the second syllable , i.e. "медбра́т", like Russian. Cheers.

To (hopefully?) with a "c" form stress pattern give something like:

nominative медбра́т - медбрати́
genitive медбра́та - медбраті́в
dative медбра́тові, медбра́ту - медбрата́м
accusative медбра́та - медбраті́в
instrumental медбра́том - медбрата́ми
locative медбра́тові, медбра́ті - медбрата́х
vocative медбра́те - медбрати́

...??

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HeyMarlana
Canada

Re: медбра́т

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If you mean pronunciation, then I'm sorry, it's best to wait for a native Ukrainian speaker to clarify. To my knowledge the root word is still stressed the same, making the pronunciation the same along with the case-ending to follow.

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Davey944676
Great Britain

Re: медбра́т

Post by Davey944676 »

I mean the Ukrainian stress patterns: a, b, c, d, d', e, f or f', based on Andrey Zaliznyak's Russian-language patterns.

Here's an overview where they are used for en.wiktionary Ukrainian templates...
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Template ... ducibility

And here, for comparison, is an overview of the (slightly different) Russian patterns used: a b c d e f b' d' f' f''...
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix ... ns_-_nouns

(The en.wiktionary Russian declension of медбра́т takes the "a" pattern, and is also annoyingly irregular... :))

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Enzfj2
Ukraine

Re: медбра́т

Post by Enzfj2 »

Davey944676 wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 11:06 pm
HeyMarlana wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:31 pm

It's a hard declension.

Right, so a stress has to go on the second syllable , i.e. "медбра́т", like Russian. Cheers.

To (hopefully?) with a "c" form stress pattern give something like:

nominative медбра́т - медбрати́
genitive медбра́та - медбраті́в
dative медбра́тові, медбра́ту - медбрата́м
accusative медбра́та - медбраті́в
instrumental медбра́том - медбрата́ми
locative медбра́тові, медбра́ті - медбрата́х
vocative медбра́те - медбрати́

...??

Your declination is absolutely correct.

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Davey944676
Great Britain

Re: медбра́т

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[mention]Enzfj2[/mention]

Thank you for the confirmation. :)

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